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Student Q&A, October 2024: Pronouncing the final -i after sh-, the initial z- and if Pinyin is a good transcription system

This week’s podcast episode is a reader and listener Q&A, where I answer three questions about Mandarin pronunciation.

This time, I’m answering questions about:

  • Pronouncing the final -i after e.g. sh-
  • Pronouncing the initial z-
  • If Pinyin is a good transcription system for students

I have also included a written summary below!

Tune in to the Hacking Chinese Podcast to listen to the related episode (#217):


Available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube and many other platforms!

Summary of this episode

Links to things mentioned in the introduction

Question 1: How is the Pinyin final spelt with an “i” pronounced after “sh”?

  • The final “i” after “sh”, “zh”, “ch”, and “r” is a voiced version of the “sh” sound
  • To pronounce it, retract your tongue and ensure your vocal cords vibrate (voicing)
  • Relax the tongue slightly for a more accurate sound
  • This explanation also applies to “i” after “s”, “z”, and “c”, but with a different tongue position

Read more about Pinyin traps and pitfalls here: A guide to Pinyin traps and pitfalls: Learning Mandarin pronunciation

A guide to Pinyin traps and pitfalls: Learning Mandarin pronunciation

Question 2: How is the initial spelt with a “z” pronounced compared to “z” in English?

  • Pinyin “z” is not like English “z”; it is an affricate sound, pronounced like “ts”
  • There is no voicing, unlike the English “z”
  • Avoid adding aspiration (a puff of air), which could turn it into Pinyin “c”

Check my pronunciation course for more about this (and everything else related to pronunciation): Hacking Chinese Pronunciation: Speaking with Confidence

Question 3: Is Pinyin a good transcription system for learning pronunciation?

  • Spoken sounds and written symbols are two different things; don’t mix them up
  • Pinyin is systematic and effective for learning Mandarin pronunciation
  • Most pronunciation errors related to Pinyin occur because students don’t learn the (simple) spelling rules
  • Zhuyin prevents guessing based on English but is less commonly used
  • Learning the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) can provide additional insights into pronunciation

Read more here: Learning to pronounce Mandarin with Pinyin, Zhuyin and IPA: Part 1

Learning to pronounce Mandarin with Pinyin, Zhuyin and IPA: Part 1

 

 




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